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Will do. May be a while, tho, as I never know when this'll pop up again, and it'll have to be at a time where I can spare a few minutes to gather the info you requested.
Oh, and btw, if you all would be willing to do a one-on-one, if you'd show me where to patch the current PhX code I'm running to jack up the value, that'd work fine for now
Hi - I occasionally have burps in my internet feed, where the connection is lost for a short time.
The other software I use has long enough timeout values to where it's pretty much unaffected; when the feed resumes, those apps update and move right along.
PhX, however, apparently has a really short timeout value and it blows up and sometimes restarts and sometimes just goes bye-bye, requiring a full restart of PhX.
So, how about either upping the time out period for PhX or, better yet, letting the user set the value?
Hi - Thought I'd throw in a suggestion for a future release on charting:
* Allow for some margin space on the right side of a chart, so that price bars aren't always bumping up against the price axis. Some charting programs call this expansion space, some call it margin, etc.
* As it is now, whenever I bring up PhX, I have to manually move the chart to the left to get some extra margin/padding/breathing room on the right.
Actually, I have two questions:
* My PhX charts are setup with hidden legend bar at bottom, which is the way I want 'em.
I've forgotten how to turn this on/off, so could you clue me in? Wanna do this on a temp chart, but leave my production charts unchanged.
* Real question here has to do with intraday charts from longer times ago. Say, 2 minute
data from three years ago...to manually scroll back or drag via pan mode takes forever,
as PhX has to request data every page or two. I tried this a year or two ago and PhX
finally bogged down and stopped...
Any way to get farther back historical intraday data in an easier fashion??
Jay, how do I contact you? I don't see any way to pm or email you on this board.
Hi - I just installed the latest/greatest PhX version, and altho it seems to be working well,
the title bars on individual charts are very narrow; much more so than on previous releases.
I'm running Win7Pro on a multi-monitor setup, using monitor resolutions of 1920x1200(WUXGA).
I'm familiar with changing Title Bar width via Windows, but don't know how to do so on PhX, so could you clue me in on this? Or, if there's no way to change this via PhX, do you have any ideas on how to proceed?
My Win7 bars are unchanged; just the PhX stuff, after I upgraded...
Is this something you all could/should test on your end???
Hey, pleasant surprise(!) My Excel options chain picked up the new 'weekly' opts on the 5/17 monthly list, so apparently, things are working correctly.
Dunno if'n you all did anything or not, but for now, I'm good...
If I'm figuring correctly, TODAY, 5/8, is the release date for the $xx2.50/xx7.50 strike options for this weekly cycle, involving the opts that expire on Sat., 5/17(the monthlies). So, could you check a few stocks, such as APPL and IBM to see if you encounter the DDE/Excel problem listed above?
You'll need to have an Excel spreadsheet open before the market cranks up, to see what's going on as to why an Excel options chain won't refresh with the newly issued opts.
If by chance you also have the DTNIQ interface app from Telvent that gets it's data feed from IQFeed, you can use a Time & Sales window to do what you want. Bring up a Time & Sales window, configure it to gather minute data back as far as you want(for me, stock data goes back into 2007), then click on the small diskette icon, at which point you'll be prompted where to save and which format. Specify comma delmited for .CSV and you'll be all set.
You have to do this manually, or perhaps you could write a Windows macro to do this for you, if you have a repetitive task to accomplish.
Hi - found a bug I hadn't noticed before, probably cuz it only shows up one day per month(!?!):
* I use the IQFeed DDE interface w/Excel to throw up a pruned back options chain during the market day. (I use the DTNIQ Options Chain window for research after hours).
* This past Thur, 4/10, I noticed that some previously blank Excel lines listing some new weekly opts didn't update/refresh...
* Left DDE connected, but killed the Excel window and restarted it.
* Nogo; the new opts still didn't register/display.
* Brought up DTNIQ Options Chain window and there they were...
* Btw, I also have a DDE/Excel smaller window running that shows some basic watch list stuff. I left that one running the entire time.
More and more stocks are transitioning to adding weeklies, along with smaller strike increments, using a $2.50 increment now instead of the older $5.00 increment. For example, AAPL: 540.00, 542.50, 545.00, 547.50, etc. IBM: 200.00, 202.50, 205.00, 207.50, etc.
* Now, with the normal weeklies, ALL of the strikes show up when a new series is created, which is what I'd expect.
* This bug I encountered was with existing monthly opts(in this case, the April monthlies that will expire this next week). These monthly opts have been around for quite a while, but on Thursday, the $xx2.50/xx7.50 strikes were added, which makes them effectively weekly options, during the final week of the monthly cycle. As mentioned above, DDE/Excel didn't pick up these additional $xx2.50/xx7.50 strikes, while the DTNIQ Options Chain did.
So, is this something you all could make note of and try with the May monthly opts? Since the May monthlies expire on Saturday, 5/17, the weekly $xx2.50/xx7.50 strikes should first be available on Thur, 5/8. You'd need to have a DDE/Excel window up the day before to test, then see what happens the next day on Thur, 5/8 at market open.
I'm running IQFeed 220.127.116.11, which is a beta version you all cobbled together for me last December, to fix a T&S Windows issue I was having.
If there's some way or need to restart the DDE interface, lemme know if there's a way to do this without killing IQFEED and DTNIQ, which I need to have running all day long. These new opts may not show until the market opens, which would get in the way of disturbing the IQFeed/DTNIQ stuff I also have running.
ALL fixed now and working just fine...title bars work even better than before in the old 18.104.22.168 release I was using.
See post in other section:
Oops, got my DTNIQ people mixed up - LOREN is the person who sent me the beta code...hope neither of you is insulted by my mixup
Ok - status time:
* After getting the beta code from Curtis, I tested it over the weekend and Mon/Tue at/after market open and it all works great(!)
* My faith in the DTNIQ Development folks is now restored and I'm on my way.
* Minute/Tick windows work just fine and the T&S Title Bar issue mentioned in the Wishlist section is fixed, too. Actually works better now than in the old 22.214.171.124 release I was using earlier.
So, life is good...
You all can take off for the Holidays now
Yup; got it. I worked 25+ years in 'puter tech support in some extremely large computer complexes, and even though I wasn't an Application Programmer, I do know how all of this works and fits together. And I also know that going into the holidays is not a great time for this to hit, but the timing just worked out that way.
Oh, one other thing - I'm aware that backing out an upgrade wouldn't take that much time.
I've been using DTNIQ for at least 15 years and have been through release changes many times.
However, it'll take me at least an hour or two to sort out my code again, and even more importantly, re-installing 126.96.36.199 does not get me back to the same Windows setup I previously had. DTNIQ used the Windows Registry and my past experience with mixing DTNIQ and the Registry has not been too good. Enough so that I would rather not go back and forth several times to 'get it right'.
So, even though refreshing the T&S minute windows is a real pain, I thought I might grind it out this week and see where things stand, going into the weekend.
There are some significant(to me) changes with how the current release of DTNIQ
handles Time & Sales title bars, of all things. Probably nothing you all ever
thought of, but it makes a noticeable diff to me, as not everyone runs this stuff
in ways you might expect. Details:
* I use a lot of T&S windows for tick data and 1 minute data. Equities and option names.
I want easy, realtime access to historical tick/minute data during the trading day and
DTNIQ works very well for this.
* Way too much stuff to deal with manually...so, off I went, looking for some help...
* I tried DTNIQ 'Workspaces' to help manage these but it's inadequate because it won't
remember T&S window size and placement on my monitors. It also won't allow for mixing
of Tick and Minute data - all of the windows created have to be one data type and size only.
And, lastly, I can't create two separate workgroups; open one and then piggyback the
second on top of it. Each workgroup started up wipes out ALL T&S windows currently open.
If I wanna open 30 windows, all I get are 30 windows of the same data type dumped into the
middle of my screen. Same location, same size. No help in sizing and positioning these
windows anywhere or mixing tick/minute data types.
* So, to get around all of these issues, I now use a Windows Macro generator called Autohotkey
(AutoHotkey.com) to crank all of this up for me. Very powerful macro language. I can have
it create whatever data type selection I want, fill in stock/option names, move the windows
where I want 'em and resize, if necessary. Very nice. Just fire off some routines, no
* To manage and move around my T&S windows, I name some of them via changing the Title Bar
name. This also makes them easier to read and comprehend, compared to the default options name.
For example, an AAPL 560c option for Dec 06, 2013 expiration window normally comes up with
a Title Bar name of 'AAPL1306L560 - Time & Sales'. Quite a mouthful. Note that the title
does not indicate whether it's tick data or minute data. You have look at the data itself
or in the small white data type section at the top of the window. So, I might name the window
'AAPL-560c-Tick' or 'AAPL-560c-Minute' for ease of viewing. Very handy. Also, very easy
to find individual windows for macro usage, such as screen placement and sizing.
Built my Autohotkey code around this and everything worked fine...until it didn't.
* I migrated from DTNIQ 188.8.131.52 to the current release of 184.108.40.206 and all hell broke loose.
Here's the laundry list of what's wrong and what I'd like to see changed, either back to the
way it used to work or fixed so it works correctly to begin with. I might mention that I browsed
ALL of the release notes up to the current level and -nothing- was mentioned about Title Bars.
If it's worth changing, it's worth mentioning in the release notes.
You have no way of knowing the various ways in which your customer base uses this software.
I may be the only person doing what I'm doing, but what matters -to me- is that there's
some consistency between releases. Took me a couple hours that I didn't have at the time
to rework my code, and it's still not quite right.
* First up, when I open a new/blank T&S window, the title is 'Time and Sales'. However,
when I fill it up with data, the window is now 'xxxx - Time & Sales'. The blank window
should be 'Time & Sales' to begin with...someone probably didn't notice this when making
the change over. The old version always listed the title as 'Time and Sales'; no '&'.
So, change the blank/empty T&S window title from 'Time and Sales' to 'Time & Sales' to
* Next, someone decided to flip flop the order of the title components. It used to read
something like 'Time and Sales - AAPL1306L560'...now, it's 'AAPL1306L560 - Time & Sales'.
No consistency. Now, I can live with this, as it's a one time change to my code.
What is really not cool is:
* The old release would retain my add-on ('AAPL-560c-Tick') when I clicked on the green refresh
icon button at the top. Now, it wipes out everything and dumps 'AAPL1306L560 - Time & Sales' back
into the title bar. This means I have to -manually- rename a T&S window everytime I do
a refresh. Inconvenient, to say the least. Under the old 220.127.116.11 DTNIQ code, clicking on
refresh would change the title bar to 'AAPL-560C-Tick - AAPL1306L560'.
Workable, as my title was still buried in there somewhere, so I could continue to find it and
manipulate the window with my autohotkey code.
So, net out of the above is that I'd like to see some consistency in naming conventions for
T&S windows and most of all, some retaining of a name change I might do, whenever I click on the
refresh icon. I can live with any order, but it needs to work correctly and remain the same from
release to release.
What I'd recommend most would be to come up with a title that lists the THREE title components
that matter, which are the stock/options symbol name, 'Time & Sales' logo, and new-to-DTINQ,
the type of data captured in a particular window, such as 'Tick', '1 Minute', '2 Minute',
'Daily', 'Weekly', etc.
'AAPL1306L560 - Time & Sales - Tick'
'AAPL1306L560 - Time & Sales - 5 Minute'
'AAPL - Time & Sales - Daily'
This way, each title is more unique and better describes what's being captured. And, for users
who don't go through the gyrations I do, when they hover their cursor over the Windows tray,
popping up a laundry list of T&S window names, they wouldn't have to wonder what type of data
a particular window shows. Try it yourself: create a bunch of T&S windows, use the same
name 'AAPL', throw in 5-6 time intervals, minimize some/all of them, then hover your cursor
on the Windows tray and try to figure out what you have...not so easy, is it?
I usually have ~60 of these tick/minute T&S windows open during the trading day. Way too much
to have splattered across my screens, so I minimize them and bring them up when needed. I have
some automation to do this for me and it works very well. But, as listed above, I need something
unique to each window to allow the automation to figure out what's what. As of now, I now
longer can do that.
Questions on any of this, lemme know...
Ok, Tim, I'll see about backing out the upgrade, when I have a chance. In the meantime, I'm posting some stuff in the wishlist section in regards to some issues I had with the migration, in regards to changes in the titles for T&S windows. Please take a look and consider changing the code a bit to accommodate what I used to be able to do.
I may try my automated refresh routine a few minutes before market open tomorrow, just to be sure on the reset time, but I was up late last night and cranked everything up then, to no avail.
Well, I discovered that this T&S tick/minute bug evidently resets at market open, which means any attempts on my part to refresh the data prior to market open are ignored and get wiped out. I refreshed all of my T&S minute windows after midnite eastern time and it still crapped out at market open. I run my pc on eastern time to synch with the NYSE, too.
So, I'm stuck in limbo land - I have a problem with T&S Title Bars that I didn't have time to outline in the wishlist section and I have this tick/minute refresh problem right now. Don't really wanna go back to a prior DTNIQ/IQFeed release, but can't live with things the way they are.
Jay, are you sure there'll be something this week I can download that'll fix this tick/minute bug? If so, I'll wait it out; if not, I'll just go back to 18.104.22.168